It all began with a remembering Cache Valley, UT and a summer spent working on Ivan Thompson’s farm for the summer…
The day of the interview with Joe Rogan was here. And, although the trip to Joe’s studio in Austin, TX was pleasant and uneventful we were a bit tense as he was such a well-known figure and had taken an interest in Bob’s (my husband’s) adventure and seemingly recent catapulting into the limelight of “overnight” success.
So, after landing we went to our hotel yesterday and settled in for the night. Settled was not how it was for me but, like normal, Bob lay his head on the pillow and was gone after completing his nightly ritual of course. I envy his ability to sleep sitting up if that is what’s available.
Anyways, the limo picked us up right on time and we arrived at the studio shortly thereafter. Joe’s assistant Miranda greeted us at the studio doors and kindly ushered us into the green room. Bob, being the same as he always is, was quiet yet kind and cordial with Miranda and the other staff throughout.
I was going to remain in the green room while Joe interviewed Bob and I was grateful for that. I hadn’t slept all night for being nervous. Needless to say, I was happy that it was Bob in the hot seat rather than me.
The “On Air” light came on and Miranda motioned for Bob to enter the Live room with Joe. I’ll let the interview speak for itself from here forward… See you all at the end.
Interview:
Joe: Today I have Bob Watkins in the studio, a man who has recently skyrocketed into public view for his ability to grow his legacy to 10 figures all the while living in a “sanctuary” as he calls it in the mountains of West Virginia. Between his crypto trading expertise (mentored by a man he calls “The Oracle”), his ability to spot emerging trends to quietly invest in and his skills in acquiring existing organizations from retiring and grateful boomers his legacy continues to grow just as he had envisioned it. People who know Bob say you will find him in his shop turning bowls and building cabinets, or out in the woods with the wide range of wildlife he “talks to” on his daily treks through the mountains. Welcome Bob, glad to have you here in the studio.
Bob: I’m very happy to be here, great staff by the way. They helped my wife and feel comfortable from the word go.
Joe: That’s great, yeah, I couldn’t ask for better to support me in my work. So, how did this all start? What was the seed?
Bob: Funny you ask it that way. Actually, It all began with a remembering Cache Valley, UT and a summer spent working on Ivan Thompson’s farm for the summer… It was 1977, summer and I was sent by my parents to live with my uncle Dale and his family. The true reason I’ll never know why I was sent to live with Uncle Dale; both my parents are gone now. Anyways, Uncle Dale had a friend in the small town of Richmond who was aging, had a farm and quite a bit of acreage in hay which he needed a farm hand to help haul it. Once there, I discovered, he would drive the trucks and tractors I would move, stack, water for each cutting; three during that summer. Lots of manual labor but very satisfying and character-building for a boy from the city I later recognized.
This remembrance of this scene came about because of another mentor of mine, Mark J and several years of training in how to select what I wanted in my life and how to control my mind, specifically the subconscious, to bring those things into my reality.
That summer in Cache Valley, the things I experienced, the changes in myself and the liberty to be my authentic self in 1977 became the mental picture I used as foundation from which to bring the rest into being.
Joe: Bob, that seems so far-fetched to use that as the “seed” but, even more so to use your mind, your “subconscious” to magically materialize the rest seems a bit woo woo. Why do you give credit to your mind, I mean it’s your hands and body that did or do the work to build all you have accomplished. You gotta back that up a bit…
Bob: I understand completely. I was raised with a religious background and although most from that world believe in prayer, or rather say they do, their actions, like mine until recently tell a different tale.
We from that background were always told that we simply need to ask for what we want, have faith “and it is given,” right? Well, most do not sit and think about this in context enough to even get the first of the two actions required done correctly. If I ask any one hundred people on the street, “what do you want,” the majority of them will not be able to reply a) with something that is truly meaningful and impactful for them and b) 90% will not be able to describe with specificity that thing they want. What they invariably do when pressed for an answer, they describe or reference what they do not want as a comparison.
The mind’s holodeck does not work that way. Throughout written history and modern literature, we can find contemporary authors and men/women who have thought thru and applied with scientific rigor proven principles of “how to” use your mind properly to get what you want.
If you read the personal lessons of prolific inventors correlated to electricity alone, like Benjamin Franklin, Nikola Tesla, and Thomas Edison, you will discover they all had a period in their daily habits that afforded them time to just think. Sometimes, that time was spent thinking about thinking and thoughts. These men had thoughts about engineering innovative tools to help mankind, much like Elon Musk does today with a goal for his SpaceX organization facilitating humans becoming a multiplanetary species.
If you break down what each of these examples have done or are doing, every one of them “thought” about a solution to an impediment of their time, and from that “thought”, believing (i.e. having faith) added to sufficient enthusiasm, that they could apply those inspired thoughts (i.e. hints and guidance from their intuition) and some personal action to successfully develop and test their hypotheses.
Amazingly, Tesla was said to have slept little and he explained it like this:
I do not think there is any thrill that can go through the human heart like that felt by the inventor as he sees some creation of the brain unfolding to success… Such emotions make a man forget food, sleep, friends, love, everything. ~ Nikola Tesla
In other words, he was so excited and filled with this energy of faith when his brain revealed some new solution to his internal inquiry.
My seed was originated when I first read As a Man Thinketh by James Allen when I was 18 years old. Then it was clarified as particular habits and a mindset best in 2015 when I studied Charles F. Haanel, Og Mandino and Napoleon Hill via the Master Key Experience under the tutelage of Mark Januszewski and his team. I again took this course of exercises with MarkJ in 2024 which further clarified the steps particular to my current circumstances.
Joe: Wow, that took many years for you to come this realization then, didn’t it?
Bob: Yes, I was a bit thick you might say. I had glimpses of what was possible along the way but, the Master Key Experience and real commitment, things came into complete focus enough for me to generate the sufficient self-confidence (i.e., faith in the direction I wanted to direct my mind) to bring my dreams into reality. They were always in the quantum field as potentialities, it simply took concentrated focus to have them solidify similar to the waves vs. particles in the now famous “double slit” experiment. It is our observation that defines our reality.
Joe: Apparently not so famous, I don’t think I know anything about this double slit experiment…
Bob: Have you ever watched “What the Bleep, down the rabbit hole”? It was a film produced with many scientist, including Dr. Joe Dispenza, wherein they demonstrate all the scientific testing and results proving that human observation can change reality.
Joe: Oh yeah, now I recall that discussion in an interview I had with Dr. Joe a while back. He is super intelligent and has a real knack for explaining tough topics so anyone can understand. I remember him talking about quantum mechanics.
So, Bob, tell me how then did you take all this mentoring and convert it to the successes we see today? And further, how could anyone else do similarly with their own lives?
Bob: In my particular case, I had discovered through this process that I had weak muscles when it came to focus and self-confidence, or rather a faith shortfall. These added to poor clarity in the details and timing of what I wanted, or rather what I was telling my subconscious I wanted, the results were the mediocrity that was then the conditions of my life. All these are skills that can be developed either on my own or with help. Since I already knew Mark J, and had gone thru his Master Key Experience once to good effect, I chose to take a scholarship granted by the prior year’s course participants and reassert my efforts. You never fail unless you “chose” to quit right!
The process starts with basic daily routines/habits that are designed with well-known experts in habit modification and cognitive studies. While these core activities begin the replace automatic and poorly thought out (or not at all consciously), I was refining my vision (in meticulous details) and enthusiastically presenting that vision to my subconscious several times daily as instructed in the Master Key Experience course materials.
As those three weaker elements were coming together, Mark J and his coaches helped develop a strong grasp of the principles that have been taught by all the masters of thought for thousands of years. The principles helped my replace my bad and inefficient habits for those that have proven to support and result in success going back millennia.
Joe: Bob, I can’t leave that one with more details. Who are these “masters” you are referring to and what principles?
Bob: The teacher from Galilee, Buddha, Og Mandino, Napoleon Hill, Charles Haanel, Emerson, Thoreau and all the “thinkers” back through the ages have written and shared these principles many times over. Especially in our modern world, time and focus to sit and think is truly a lost art. Secondly, with all the chemicals in our diets, the air we breath and the water we drink, the specific hormones, glands and brain functions required are to greater or lesser degree handicapped. It takes a good bit of dedication to break out of the near robot-like routines of everyday life in the twenty first century.
Joe: Now I see who you are referring to, or rather the materials that Mark J’s courses contain. I think I am getting it now.
So, you used your mind, and guidance and instructions written by the sages of old like a project plan template and simply filled in the blanks for your personal desired deliverables.
Bob: Joe, you obviously read up on me, ha ha ha. Yes, Exactly! Given my IT project management background, which is exactly what I did. I actually put it into spreadsheet format to ensure that any dependency goals were included, in the proper order. The big key is those thoughts (dream and goals) must be infused with enthusiasm and peak positive emotions. The same way the vets with PTSD have their subconscious (and habits) detrimentally affected by some trauma on the battlefield (trauma is simple a surge of emotional hormones associated with an event), we can use our own emotions to install and change our minds to align making our dreams manifest into reality. Simple yes, easy mmm, often not; it takes work, mental work and mental work is something modern man seems to avoid, or rather have a strong aversion to.
But, without a clear target, Subby (Mark J’s nickname for our subconscious) it’s no use and nothing will come of any amount of effort. There are other obstacles but, in the weekly calls with Mark and his team, you become aware of each that may cause issues and mitigating strategies and tactics become second nature, instilled as habits through the daily exercises.
Joe: I see the picture clearly now. Like being in boot camp, Mark J teaches what to do, not do and practice exercises to replace bad habits with good habits that limit or minimize any difficulties that may arise.
Bob: Bullseye! What can be achieved is Limitless as my crypto mentor would say. He would also say emotionless is the only way to win, and in saying that he just confirms the degree of power that fear, a primal emotion, diverts us off target with a firm grip unless we gain control of our emotions, our mind and our self-talk that would say you cannot do that, achieve that, or that the cost of attaining some goal is too high risking the current status quo. These are the thoughts that shackle most to a life half asleep and uneventful. Thoreau said, ‘Most people live lives of quiet desperation.’
Joe: Well said! Bob, thank you for spending time with me and sharing what has worked for you and many others who have taken the chance and accepted a scholarship into Mark J’s Master Key Experience to find direction, fulfillment and the power hidden in their thoughts and mind.
