Joe Rogan: “Good morning, we are here today, at the Savannah Dhu Resort on December 31st, 2026, live on location to interview Ms. Julie Marsden, who has created quite a stir in the wellness healthcare industry. A mother of 5 and grandmother of nine wonderful grandchildren, it is amazing how you became so accomplished. I would like to ask; how did you become so successful, especially in the treatment of trauma?”

Julie: “Well Joe, let’s start at the beginning. From the outside world, I was an active, healthy child, but that wasn’t the truth. You see, my journey began over 60 years ago, to heal from early childhood trauma. That propelled me on my spiritual path to learn more about myself. Everyone knows… that the first 7 years of a child’s life molds the person, forming their personality, influencing the person they become.

“Again, from the outside world looking in, I held it together, delved into sports to channel my energy, the pent-up anger, frustration and terror that was hidden behind the facade. Deep down, I was always struggling with health issues, pushing myself and channeling my energies positively, or so I thought. I became a workaholic, escaping from the pain.

“Please note I am now balanced in my work schedule. I work 30 hours or less and work has become my pleasure, but it is now balanced and no longer used as an escape for me.

“In the past I worked hard and was rewarded, but it wasn’t enough. Success was instilled in me at an early age. My success I felt was compensation for all my hard work. I was looking outside of myself for validation, for acceptance, instead of going within. Most often, hard work was expected growing up.”

Joe: “Okay, then what?”

Julie: “Now let’s jump forward. I’m in my late 20s. I’m married, with 5 wonderful children and a beautiful home. These were my dreams as a young child. Wanting a healthy, happy family life, something that was foreign to me as a child.

“I accomplished all those dreams, but my life was anything but perfect. As my health deteriorated, I started to really question myself and my life. What I thought would bring me happiness only made my life more difficult.

“You see, I attracted what I thought was perfect for me, but I didn’t feel worthy deep within. I was hiding that part of me, my inner child, who was in extreme pain.

“What I’ve come to realize is that we inherit many beliefs or programs from our ancestors that shape our life until we are given the knowledge, skills and habits to change our life. It is likened to seeing the codes from The Matrix but not having the Master Code, then one day someone gives you the Master Key to decode the Matrix.

“Once you have the code, it is very simple to see in yourself and all around you. It is a big WOW, and you cannot unsee it once the curtain has been pulled back. You see through the illusion and take responsibility for everything in your life.”

Joe: “This is a classic situation. So, what happened?”

Julie: “The fact of the matter is I needed to heal that part of me that was wounded, crying for help, literally working myself to death. You see Joe,I feel that we all choose our path, life circumstances, and our family situations.

“This is part of the soul’s journey, our soul agreements with God our creator. Now many believe or question why we would choose a dysfunctional family environment. Again, I feel simply to advance our soul, to assist in the evolution of human consciousness. I feel I agreed to assist in the healing of my family lineage from a soul perspective.”

Joe: “Okay, so that is a little history of your background and childhood. But from that position, how did you arrive at where you are today?”

Julie: “Well let’s say there was a lot of trial and error, and it wasn’t easy. I have done many things to heal myself, clearing deep seated trauma understanding how the conscious, subconscious and unconscious mind work. I’ve done things like EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization Reprocessing), NAET (Nambudripad Allergy Elimination Technique therapy, EPD therapy (Enzyme Potentiated Desensitization) F.E.E.L. (Facilitated Equine Experiential Learning) therapy to name just a few of the many techniques or programs I’ve used over the course of the past 40 years.”

Joe Rogan: “Well from what I understand ,going within to look at that part of us, takes courage and it isn’t always an easy journey. It can be quite lonely. Again, this is fascinating. I know a little bit about this from a wellness perspective. As you know… I had to overcome the big “C” word cancer. My question then is please, explain to me and our audience what you feel was the key to you changing your life and life circumstances.”

Julie “Well Joe, I had some pivotal moments in my life which really connected me to God, near death experiences will do that to a person. Some time later after exhausting all efforts to save me, during one of my near death experiences, when I left my body and began saying goodbye to my 5 children, but when I got to my youngest child, who was only 3, I prayed and promised to God, that I would do whatever he asked of me, so long as I could take care of my 5 children. I survived of course, and went back to my home to take care of my children for the next 7 years.

“You see Joe, I have always had an inner feeling or knowing. I say this to say, because of my promises to God, my life took a drastic change 7 years later. God called upon me to be of service. To honor my promises to him for saving my life. Never could my conscious mind imagine the next 20 years of my life.

“It was one test after another, being homeless, not seeing my children, being torn apart inside. I had strong survival skills, and I would not let my circumstances destroy me. Through the Master Key Experience (MKE) and other work I have done, I realized that I had very deep programs that I was running within my subconscious and superconscious mind, many of which were inherited from my ancestors for survival.

“Now as I continued to pray and believe God had a bigger plan for me, everything I was going through was in preparation for me being of service. I had also prayed for many years a very short prayer that most people are not aware of that goes like this:

The Jabez Prayer “And Jabez called on the God of Israel saying, Oh, that You would bless me indeed, and enlarge my territory, that your hand would be with me, and that you would keep me from evil, that I may not cause pain! So, God granted him what he requested.

— I chronicles 4:10 NKJV

“You see Joe, these events and my prayers changed my life. It directly changed the direction of my life forever. So, I spent the past 20 years learning about private placements, Trust work, honouring my promise to God, to be of service to humanity, fulfilling my Soul Contracts. Let’s skip all the difficulties and challenges I had during the 20 years, to come to where I am today, how I broke through all the obstacles.

“I understood, my past was dictating my life. I knew that the early childhood trauma was influencing me. I knew from a spiritual perspective, but also from scientific perspective. I needed to know what was missing to change my life.

“I meditated daily for 1-2 hours for many decades. I was able to still my mind over 30 years ago. Yet, I was still missing something pivotal.

“I was guided through meditation to work with horses, which I found to be extremely helpful, and I was grateful for those experiences. It gently allowed me to access parts of me that I was running away from, parts of me that were so deeply wounded I didn’t trust others to help me with. I felt safe with the horses, and they mirrored to me, so that I could see what needed to be dealt with and let it go. It is intense work, and it takes courage to do this work, but it is rewarding to see yourself grow.

“I regressed there for a moment. Where was I? Oh, yes. Yet despite all my personal work over the decades, that I had done, somehow, through everything there was a missing link. I had yet to live my dream life and find happiness.

“That link is called Master Key Experience (MKE) which comes from a 4,500-year-old practice/knowledge that was hidden from most of the world.

“You see, I had been doing a very focused type of praying with my friend Maria. These prayers are known as Celestial Court of Atonement which works at the soul level. It is an extremely powerful form of sacred prayer and is very specific. We did these prayers together for over a year daily. Some days would be 8 or more hours. We learned the power of one word. We would feel and sense the energies of the prayers and then receive guidance.

“These prayers evolved over time. I was also guided to create a group called Sisters of the Rose through my personal connection to Mary Magdalene the wife of Jesus before I was introduced to these prayers. Once I started working with the prayers, I knew I had to share them. This is how Sisters of the Rose was created even though I knew several years before I was to bring women together who had a deep connection to Mary Magdalene.

“I didn’t know how that would happen until I was introduced to this form of prayer work. I believe it was through these prayers that I was also guided to Master Key Experience which was the missing piece I was looking for and was part of my prayer work for a long time.

“You see Joe, it was through Master Key Experience that I was able to put the pieces together. I had felt from early childhood I was like Humpty Dumpty. I felt that I had been broken and needed to put myself back together again.

“I needed to dig down within myself and really look at what needed to be done to realize my dreams, resonate and feel my dreams as if they were already created, going into that stillness, the void where we co-create with Source Energy – God.

“I had been for years going into the void of creation, but I had more work to do, to finally let go of the armor that was holding me back. As Mark talks about it, it’s the cement on the Golden Buddha.”

Joe Rogan: “Okay, I’m trying to follow you here. So, when did you start your journey as a Trust-woman and how does that fit into the picture?”

Julie: “It all began in November 2004. Even though I was born into it, I didn’t know it at a conscious level that my soul had volunteered before I was born. I have always felt that my life experiences were something I agreed to and that there was a purpose to everything I had lived through. I always felt that my life was being orchestrated or guided by a higher power, God, or as some people say, ‘The Great Spirit’”.

“I felt that if I could find the path to feeling whole and complete… if I could heal within and change my life… I could lead the way for others, but I had to start with myself.

“Accepting the responsibility as Trust-woman I felt that if I could help with the distribution and direction of money which is a form of energy, or resources, and if those resources could be used to support other people’s healing, to help provided needed resources for a reasonable standard of living, not just survival but for people to thrive, it would have a great impact on the world.

“That people generally do not live their lives to their full potential in balance and harmony feels true to me. So, I decided a long time ago that I wanted to focus on health, physical health, mental health, spiritual balance and harmony but especially dealing with Trauma as my focus.

“My personal journey was an inspiration to heal within and lead the way for others with special attention towards the utilization of new advanced technologies in healthcare for the health centers along with ancient knowledge and practices that have been suppressed from the public.

“I knew I wanted to focus on education, spiritual learning and practices, education on healthy foods, realizing that food is a medicine, learning how to prepare food, grow the food, understanding many of the different facets for healing mind, body and soul but I didn’t have the missing pieces back then.

“I was still on my personal journey to heal. I’ve always felt we are the culmination of mind, body and spirit and everything needs to be in balance and harmony if we are to be healthy. Again, this is where MKE comes into play. It provided me with the knowledge and details I needed, along with the support and exercises for me to change me from the inside out. To heal the parts of me that were in pain. There is no quick fix, and it is a process, a journey.

“I have now created through that experience, along with my 20 years of dedication as a Trust-woman, world class facilities for Trauma therapy using water, horses, journalling, music, programs to support the creativity of the individual through various art therapies, meditation, along with advanced neuro technologies.

“Again, that final piece was MKE providing knowledge, support and exercises for the individual to take responsibility for their life, therefore taking control of their own life and their future in the present moment.

“The turning point for me was September 2024 when I began Master Key Experience (MKE) and learning the keys to changing my life. To take responsibility for my life, change my habits through a process.

“In MKE you first learn that you cannot create a future and a life that you dream of without a blueprint. It is like asking a builder wanting to build a skyscraper without any drawings or road map. So, before purchasing Savannah Dhu where we are today, I first decided to purchase Wingberry Farm as my home and my first health center.

“Creating all this first began through focusing on my DMP (Definite Major Purpose) based on my dharma or as I describe it as my soul contracts. We learn with a proper blueprint, a well defined DMP and many other tools and exercises we are empowered to create the life we have always dreamt of.

“So, Wingberry farm was a big part of my initial DMP and vision for my future. This now is where I began to share the tools, knowledge, experiences and programs with others that I used to heal myself and become the woman I am today.

“Wingberry is my dream country estate, the place that I call home. It is my refuge, the place that I share with my family and friends. It is a picturesque property located just 15 minutes north of Toronto, in King Township. It is on a dead-end country road. Upon entering the property, you are greeted by a Muskoka granite retaining wall and beautiful iron gates. It is a stately entrance to this majestic property that exudes peace and tranquility, with towering trees that gently sway with the breeze as your keen ears listen to the rustling leaves singing with the whispering wind blowing through the forest that surrounds this grand estate.

“I remember how I felt the first time I laid eyes on this majestic country estate. There are many components that are like Savannah Dhu. I have always felt at peace in the country, able to let go of the world and immerse myself with God and nature.

“As you approach Wingberry Farm and drive through beautiful wrought-iron gates with Muskoka granite stone walls on either side of you, you enter another world. There is a beautiful gatehouse and check-in center for people to register at the resort. This is both my home, and F.E.E.L. Therapy Center, part of my legacy.

“Upon entering you immediately feel at home here, being embraced with the quiet seclusion, safely snuggled by the majestic forest while hearing rustling trees. It is absolutely soothing to the soul. I can remember that feeling as if it was only yesterday. It’s in a world all its own, allowing you to leave the stress and tension from the big city and reconnect with God and nature.

“I can remember when I first moved into Wingberry Farm, my dream country estate. I finally felt safe, a place to call home. This is where I share special moments with my family, enjoying nature and the horses with my grandchildren. It is very special place for me because it marks the place where we began to heal as a family, reuniting together, sharing our love for each other.

“This was a big part of me healing me and fulfilling my commitments to God. Wingberry Farm is tucked away from all the noise, bright lights, constant sounds of the city. I had finally arrived home. A place to rejuvenate, allow my body to relax, finally feeling safe, so that I allowed myself the space and time to get into such a deep meditation, knowing no one would interrupt me.

“Something so simple, yet I am filled with gratitude reflecting on this dream which has finally come true. It is something that I focused on, something I remember creating consciously. I finally could let go, let myself merge with God, feeling the pure love, allowing my heart to expand and be one with the ever-present all-encompassing source of all – God our Creator.

“I now love going for walks with my chocolate lab, Grace, walking throughout the property listening to the birds sing, seeing her curiosity running freely as we walk together. Taking her to the pond, gazing upon my reflection on the still water dreaming of my next adventure, just before Grace jumps in, so excited to swim in the pond.

I love my dog, Grace. She keeps me company, she loves me unconditionally. She has helped me to learn to love myself and take care of myself. I am in better shape now than I have been in decades, because I now love myself and give to myself.

“I no longer work crazy hours or days without sleep. I breathe easily now, appreciating each breath as a gift from God, again feeling free. Smelling the fresh air, being in gratitude for the life I have created. Knowing in my heart and soul that God loves me and has always loved me. I have finally learned to love myself unconditionally.

“I recently fulfilled a long-held dream that I’ve often imagined over the years. As a child, I cherished gatherings at my grandmother’s cottage in Muskoka, surrounded by family —grandparents, great-grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins. Now, I proudly own over 240 acres on Lake Rosseau in Muskoka, where I’ve built a barn for my horses to facilitate F.E.E.L. therapy and grow organic food.

“I’ve finally realized my dream of having a Muskoka waterfront estate to share this beautiful retreat with family, friends, and the greater community. Each location carries familiar elements while offering unique experiences.

“At my Muskoka retreat, a vast sandy beach awaits, perfect for young children, including my grandchildren, to enjoy swimming, water-skiing, boating, and fishing — traditions passed down from my great-grandfather, Chief, to my grandfather Poppa, to my father and now to my own children and grandchildren.

“It is such a joy to have my grandchildren afford the opportunity to have childhood memories with grandma, mom and dad, and all their aunts, uncles, cousins and extended family. I’m enjoying creating lasting memories and new traditions with my family, especially listening to the joyful squeals of my young grandchildren exploring the waterfront activities, swimming or jumping on the water-trampoline, or spiraling down the waterslide.

“One of the favourites of the entire family is going into the lakefront sauna, allowing the heat to build up and sweat out the toxins and then running out and diving into the cool lake. It is such an exhilarating experience, not to mention it being very healthy for mind, body and soul.

“On the other hand, spending quiet time with the horses is another family activity that many family members have come to enjoy over the years. Especially those that want peace and tranquility. They feel a deep connection with the horses and are always excited to run and see their favorite horse.

“Each grandchild has their own favorite horse that they have become very attached to. Several of my grandchildren have become very attached to spending time with grandma and her horses. It’s something they talk about all the time and are always excited to spend extended time with grandma at the cottage either at the lake or with the horses.

“I’m deeply grateful to God for blessing us with a legacy that can be cherished across generations. As a Trust-woman, I have built many legacies for humanity worldwide, all rooted in my relationship with God, who has guided me throughout my journey on this earth.

“I invite you to join me at one of our world-renowned locations to embark on your own journey of self-discovery and learn to heal, thought by thought, moment by moment. As Nikola Tesla once stated, “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration”.

“All of this is true, but what I have realized is there are other truths that have been hidden that are now being shared at our resorts to guide those that want to become the captain of their ship, chart their own path and destiny. Those secrets are available through the programs shared with each guest in an environment and in a manner that is age appropriate, to support each person on their journey of life, creating balance and harmony within.

“We have programs starting with young children from the age of 2 years old all the way to those who are nearing their transition from the physical world and everything in between. I invite you into a world of self discovery and self mastery with our wonderful staff of qualified facilitators in a natural setting surrounded by nature and the opportunity to feel the presence of God, in gratitude and appreciation for all the beauty and wonders that each resort offers.

“This is all about you becoming the future version of yourself, the person you were meant to be, but somehow lost your way. You lost touch of the genius within you that you were born with before life took over and you lost yourself. It is an exhilarating experience where you learn how to take back control of your life and chart a new path with you at the helm. Be the captain of your ship. You chart your own destiny.”